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kaldak · Nov 04, 2007, 04:02 AM // 04:02

[skill]Heart of Fury[/skill] vs [skill]Aura of Holy Might[/skill]

So, i often find I only have room on by skill bar for one offensive enchant, and it usually comes down to these two. With nothing else, they both seem to give about the same damage boost. HoF is nice because any bonus damage from other sources will hit more often, but I cant upkeep it as much of the time, and if I'm using Ermite's and Mystic Sweep then its sort of being wasted a bit.

Any thoughts?

Edit: grr...the forum still doesnt recognize pve skills?

~ Dan ~ · Nov 04, 2007, 10:01 AM // 10:01

Heart of Fury. It's up 2/3 of the time which isn't bad, and i usually only use 1 of either mystic or eremites; so an IAS isn't wasted.

bankaii · Nov 04, 2007, 10:23 AM // 10:23

I'd say Heart of Fury because the IAS is really helpful in many cases. With 20% enchant mod, it can last for ~22 seconds out of the 30 so 8 sec cool down isn't so bad for an IAS that lasts that long. Unless your Kurzick rank is like 8+, then stick with Heart of Fury.

Sirius-NZ · Nov 04, 2007, 10:00 PM // 22:00

I've found Heart of Fury exceptionally useful when you have several "normal" attacks, as opposed to Mystic/Eremite's which break the cycle...

That and holy damage isn't usually a big deal anyway. If you don't have an avatar maybe there's some point as it stops damage getting reduced... but on Avatar of Lyssa (which I use for most PvE these days) the bonus damage is so huge you don't need it.

And of course, AoB + holy flame ... yeah. I would love to see a skill bar with both.

Edit: My bad, thought you meant Heart of Holy Flame, which is quite different from Aura of Holy Might.

kaldak · Nov 04, 2007, 11:19 PM // 23:19

woops, thats understandable. i had a typo in my title....fixed now!

Perfected Shadow · Nov 05, 2007, 11:15 AM // 11:15

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Heart of Fury vs Aura of Holy Might

Heart of Fury AND Aura of Holy Might

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So, i often find I only have room on by skill bar for one offensive enchant

Mind posting the skillbar?

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Originally Posted by Sirius-NZ

That and holy damage isn't usually a big deal anyway.

You talking about AoHM or HoHF? What makes AoHM great is not the holy damage, but the damage rating bonus.

E.g. Against a foe with 100 AR, you having 16 Scythe Mastery and a customized max +15% dmg scythe
Hitting normally yields a damage range of around 7.13 - 32.5
Hitting with AoHM at rank 5 kurz/lux yields a range of around 11 - 50.12

Burn me if I gave wrong info/numbers.

jesh · Nov 06, 2007, 01:51 AM // 01:51

Agree.. use both.
Lyssa does it better.

Sirius-NZ · Nov 06, 2007, 08:17 PM // 20:17

Yeah I mistakenly thought it was about HoHF. AoHM is actually very good... sadly I haven't done enough ABing/whatever to have it yet. :/ Need to get ASAP though, it looks like a non-elite Vow of Strength...

Darkside · Nov 06, 2007, 09:07 PM // 21:07

Aura of holy might is still pretty good even at rank 1.

Either way both enchantments have very different effects so trying to compare them isn't really possible. I agree with jesh run em both.

Perfected Shadow · Nov 07, 2007, 02:26 AM // 02:26

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Originally Posted by Sirius-NZ

it looks like a non-elite Vow of Strength

Using the same conditions as my previous post:
VoS at 13 Earth Prayers has a range of 10.27 - 46.80
AoHM as before has a range of 11 - 50.12

I dare say AoHM is superior since you don't need to use up attribute pts, you can use attack skills, and you can take another elite. Of course you could try to use both...

jaeharys targaryen · Nov 07, 2007, 02:57 PM // 14:57

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Lyssa does it better.

lyssa is bad
it has very few niche places where its worth taking
dwayna>>>>>>lyssa
melandru>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lyssa

ensoriki · Nov 07, 2007, 11:09 PM // 23:09

Did you just say Lyssa is bad?

How many mesmers have cast [card]Ignorance[/card] on you in the last 5 minutes? 70?

Lyssa isn't bad and its not niche, its something you can bring anywhere, people are goiong to cast skills...and when they do...theres lyssa saying "Cast a long spell and go to hell"
Lyssa + arcane conundrum = Fun!!!!

Melandru may be good >.> but its ugly!

Kale Ironfist · Nov 07, 2007, 11:25 PM // 23:25

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Originally Posted by ensoriki

Melandru may be good >.> but its ugly!

Natural beauty versus the illusion of beauty... I know which one I'd choose. Especially since one is more 'fertile'.

jesh · Nov 08, 2007, 01:53 AM // 01:53

I dunno, the thought of suprise babies has never intrigued me.

Sirius-NZ · Nov 08, 2007, 02:21 PM // 14:21

Lyssa is possibly the ugliest avatar. But in general use it may have the best utility; extra damage on targets activating skills is hardly area-specific. Unlike Dwayna, Grenth and Balthazar...

jaeharys targaryen · Nov 08, 2007, 04:56 PM // 16:56

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Unlike Dwayna

because usign a skill to gain health is specialized

re:lyssa:
doing extra(conditional) damage at the expense of a non maintainable elite(or in pve, doing extra damage when the monsters drop like flies) is not all that spectacular.
dwayna makes godly tanks, and melandru makes unkillable destruction machines

imo

*sigh* why do i hang out in the derv forum, i hate dervishes...

Sir Pandra Pierva · Nov 08, 2007, 07:40 PM // 19:40

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Originally Posted by jaeharys targaryen

*sigh* why do i hang out in the derv forum, i hate dervishes...

That is a very good question.

Lyssa is too picky if you ask me for PVE,

The order of pref for me goes

Dwayna>Mel>Grenth>Lyssa>Balth

I use the non pve skill more often just don't like heart of fury.

You can't see me · Nov 10, 2007, 01:03 AM // 01:03

When it comes to Avatars, it's all about what you want to do.

When it comes to those enchantments, Heart of the Holy Flame, Hands Down.

Marverick · Nov 10, 2007, 01:27 AM // 01:27

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Originally Posted by Perfected Shadow

Heart of Fury AND Aura of Holy Might

QFTT

There's no reason why you can't fit them both onto your skill bar as long as you don't overload yourself with defensive skills.